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PostSubject: how to: filming   Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:03 pm

please post comments and tips on how we can improve our fingerboard filming. please state it clearly especially on highly technical stuff.

pwede mong isuggest kung ano mga tips sa pagfifilm sa kasama mo, pagfifilm sa sarili mo, filming lines, outtakes, or kung ano pa. oks?

always remember hindi lahat ng tao alam ang mga sinasabi dito. lol kaya para may paguunawaan, simple lang.

i myself need this thread. thanks

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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:35 pm

nice thread!

kulang din ako sa part na to, il be watching this thread, tips naman jan guys
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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:45 pm

ganda ng topic nito. sobrang informative.

ok..

sa experience ko. ito share ko

CAM:
>5MP N96 phone

IDEAS:
> kulang ako nito, kung ikukumpara mo sa ideas ni Erick B. pero depende sa mood.
> Ive watched a lot of sb and fb videos.. at as of now.. kumukuha ako ng mga ideas kung paano nila nilalagyan ng intro yung film bago yung proper na mga bangin tricks nila.

IMPROVEMENT:
> sinundan ko lang yung payo ni TGF Bike dati, na get more lights para mas makita yung mga flips at mas maging malinaw pa yung output mo. at unting adjustment sa Brightness

PROGRAM USE:
> as of now wala akong ginagamit na any advance movie creator.. simpleng movie maker ng Windows7 lang din gamit ko.

check out ma channel and sub din.

www.youtube.com/livingnostalgic

makikita nyo din yung pagkakaiba ng unang mga ginawa kong vid sa mga latest. ayon lang sa experience lang. pero gusto ko pa din matuto sa inyo din. Very Happy ganda nitong thread na ito.



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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:47 am

aw sir saan po nadlod yung movie maker ng win7? need ko yan eh..ewan ko bakit yung akin wala nyan
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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:48 am

J. Santos wrote:
aw sir saan po nadlod yung movie maker ng win7? need ko yan eh..ewan ko bakit yung akin wala nyan

Windows 7 doesnt have any movie creator talaga wala talagang kasama WMM.

DL sya mismo sa Microsoft sir.

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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:13 am

yung laptop ko na windows7 din merong movie maker pero alang slowmo at speed up unlike sa xp. kaya sa pc ako nageedit dahil xp pa yun. i downloaded din videopad editor which is pretty much cooler than the xp's movie maker. try nyung isearch sa download.com

siguro one important aspect of fingerboard filiming is yung place. i mean look at those bonsei concrete ads, parang na sa warehouse sila, yung background parang simple di katulad nung satin na may mga sampayan at kung ano ano pa hahaha. we should work on those



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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:33 am

experience ko sa topic na to....

siguro yung sa presentation ng video, sequence ng mga clips syempre mahalaga. intro and outro, good parts etc. mahalaga yung order ng mga to

kung me Background music, mahalaga din ang synchronization ng movie clips sa bagsak ng tugtog

sa video editing software: gamit ko kasi ngayon Adobe Premiere CS3, wala pa kong nadodownload na cs5, share nyo naman kung meron kayo jan na link hehe

maganda din yung Adobe After Effects (although hindi ko pa nagagamit), advanced video editing sya if you want to apply special effects.
Yung mga nakikita mo sa mga movies na explosions or tornados etc. pwede mo iapply dito sa after effects, kelangan nga lang mataas na video card kelangan mo at specs ng pc.

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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:57 am

babantayan ko din tong thread na to..

wala kong alam dito e Very Happy tyaka wala ding gamet :p
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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:23 am




nakita ko lang sa youtube, hope this helps
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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:30 am

nice find! .. very informational.
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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:36 am

sakto yung pinost mo joven, yang yung Adobe After Effects na sinasabi ko hehe

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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:39 am

naalala ko lang kasi kahapon ng bbrowse ako, ayun, sana makatulong sa inyo.
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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:47 am

joven09 wrote:



nakita ko lang sa youtube, hope this helps

pahabol ko sa post ni joven

http://www.videocopilot.net/
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eto link ng tutorials sa after effects, sana makatulong senyo.
me mga vids ng instructions jan.

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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:48 am

san pwdeng idownload?
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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:54 am

ayos tong thread na to...matututo ako di2.....
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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:49 am


sa camera lng yan. hehe

kung mas mataas yung pixel ng medium na gamit mo, mas clear yung quality. example nlg eh yung sa cp. most of the foncam, yung resolution ng video nun eh 176x144 (6630). altho imaging fon xa, pg inup mo na sa computer (wc has bigger display), dun na nagsisimulang mg "pixelate" ksi parang nka stretch yung 176x144 to 1280x960 or higher. tska blurry yung footage or parang "ghost" images.

ang also consider the FPS(frames per second) ng cam. kahit ganu kataas yung resolution, kpag 3-5 FPS lg kaya, eh tlagang pahinto2 yung galaw.

try this experiment, take a video gamit yung medium mo. then up sa comp. edit. then slomo effect. bilangin mo kung ilang image yung narecord EVERY second. mas maraming image(10+), mas maganda/smooth o graceful ika nga yung motion.

hehe dagdagan nyo guys. and correct me if im wrong Wink
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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:52 am

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san pwdeng idownload?

sensya na wala akong download link, sa cd kasi yung nainstall ko.
pero pag nakakuha ako ng download links post ko nalang sa section ng Downloads mga idol Smile

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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:12 pm

very informative ROTFL, ndi kita maxado napapansin dito sa forums dahil ang tahimik mo pero mga katulad mo ang gusto ko, nag popost ng may laman, keep it up, plus 1 ka sakin
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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:20 pm

ROTFL wrote:

sa camera lng yan. hehe

kung mas mataas yung pixel ng medium na gamit mo, mas clear yung quality. example nlg eh yung sa cp. most of the foncam, yung resolution ng video nun eh 176x144 (6630). altho imaging fon xa, pg inup mo na sa computer (wc has bigger display), dun na nagsisimulang mg "pixelate" ksi parang nka stretch yung 176x144 to 1280x960 or higher. tska blurry yung footage or parang "ghost" images.

ang also consider the FPS(frames per second) ng cam. kahit ganu kataas yung resolution, kpag 3-5 FPS lg kaya, eh tlagang pahinto2 yung galaw.

try this experiment, take a video gamit yung medium mo. then up sa comp. edit. then slomo effect. bilangin mo kung ilang image yung narecord EVERY second. mas maraming image(10+), mas maganda/smooth o graceful ika nga yung motion.

hehe dagdagan nyo guys. and correct me if im wrong Wink

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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:16 am

hehe thanks po kuya. now i know kung anu yung DIRTY sa ilalim ng avatar hihi. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:58 pm

Nice topic ngayon ko lang nabisita to...
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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:16 pm

i want to have fish eye na cam. hehe yung convex na lense nya provides wider vision on closer footages. notice nyo sa mga skate vids yung gamit nila sa follow filming eh fish eye lahat. ksi kung yung ordinary lng na cam eh limited or "half body" lng yung makukunan esp kung malapit ang cam.

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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:05 pm

fish eye helps talaga. it will make stairs even bigger.
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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:03 pm

Chino wrote:
yung laptop ko na windows7 din merong movie maker pero alang slowmo at speed up unlike sa xp. kaya sa pc ako nageedit dahil xp pa yun. i downloaded din videopad editor which is pretty much cooler than the xp's movie maker. try nyung isearch sa download.com

siguro one important aspect of fingerboard filiming is yung place. i mean look at those bonsei concrete ads, parang na sa warehouse sila, yung background parang simple di katulad nung satin na may mga sampayan at kung ano ano pa hahaha. we should work on those




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PostSubject: Re: how to: filming   Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:10 am

magaganda na ang mga devices lately so ang magpeplay ng critical role when filming siguro e yung lighting (composed lighting o available light) and of course - the concept.

composed light setup:
kapag 1 light setup, (based on my experience) the light source must be behind the cam. una, walang unncessary glare so hindi maapektuhan ang vividness nung video. second, since the light source is facing the same direction ng camera, the light source is providing enough light sa subject. another good thing about this is, maiiwasan ang shadow na pwedeng makadistract when the video is being viewed. hassle kaya whenever you do a 180 tapos hindi na makita yung trick mo kasi nag-cast ng shadow yung siko mo, worse yung buong arm mo. atleast kapag nasa harap mo yung ilaw and cam, everything is clear and well lit.

well, sa 2 or more light setup, it's just a matter of composing it to your liking and depende sa pwesto kung saan ka magsshoot. ikaw ang bahalang magpwesto so, i prefer using study lamps tapos kung masyado namang malakas yung ilaw, gamitan mo nalang ng tracing paper para diffused yung ilaw and para hindi rin masyadong nakakasilaw. usually nagagamit ang maraming light source, kapag sequences na nangangailangan ng light from start to end.

avaliable light:
maganda magamit ang available light kapag gusto mo ng konting drama when filming. mas nakakaexcite kasi gumawa ng concept kapag available light lalo na kapag 3pm-4pm (a shade of orange to red orange colors). for example: a small light source coming from a window. minsan pa nga nakakatulong kapag may smoke (from yosi perhaps hehehe).

chase mode:
sobrang fan ako nito pero mahirap talaga syang ma-achieve kapag hindi ka na wide angle lens o kaya fisheye lens. iba talaga yung feeling na nakikita mo yung bawat moment up close. the only problem is, kapag ginawa mo to sa indoor with your light setup dahil maraming blind spot and accidental shadow. oks to kapag sa outdoors.

framing:
check your spaces. hindi porket kita na ang in and out - OK na. mas maganda kung makikita yung approach and finishing it with a nice ride-away. pero kung masikip talaga yung pwesto, no choice but to transfer and look for a wider "skate" area. siguro 2-3 test shots kuha na ang perfect angle.


apir!:
syempre mas masarap and enjoyable kapag nagffilm na may kasama ka. ok to kapag chase mode para may maghahawak nung cam. mas mahaba ang fingerboading hours at mas ganado kang magshoot ng video kapag may kasama ka. pagtapos ng shoot, shot naman! apir!


next time na yung iba. antok nako. gawa din ako sa susunod tungkol naman sa editing.



a bit of advice:
wag mo nalang i-share tapos lalaitin mo rin sarili mo at sasabihin mong "sorry po noob lang, pagtyagaan nyo na". sa totoo lang whenever we watch a video specially dito sa fingerboarding, we focus on how well and how clean the tricks are executed. the concept and filming creativity just highlights the scene. the mere fact na na-ishare mo with your own way of expressing your creativity on how to make your film, that's the most important thing!

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